1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,840 On this episode of Ghost Hunters, when a family living in a revolutionary war residents fears 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,240 for their child, Taps is there to help. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,640 There's a little girl that lives in this room and she doesn't feel comfortable in this house 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,520 because of things that you've done. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,280 And the paranormal activity may be centered around the child's bedroom. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Is that you shaking the bed? 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,400 Is something reaching out to Amy in the attic? 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,920 I feel like my hair is moving around. 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,160 The team investigates the legendary Philadelphia home of Betsy Ross. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,920 The director actually was so freaked out that she climbed out the window and onto the flagpole. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,920 What's rattling Jason and Grant in this historic landmark. 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Did you hear that? 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Chris. 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Hey. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,200 We even get the Ham House in Glen Mills, Pennsylvania. 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Pennsylvania, okay. 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,480 What's the history behind it? 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Well, I guess it's considered one of the oldest houses in America. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,200 It was built in 1695. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Wow. 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Over the years it was used as a church, a tavern, and a courthouse. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,200 What is it being used for now? 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Now it's residents. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,200 I guess the entire time it stood there's only been six families who've owned it. 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,200 And the owners now are Kim and Eric. 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,000 Kim actually sent us an urgent email because they have a six-year-old daughter, Emma, and she's starting to get scared. 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,800 What's scaring them? 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Emma's been waking up to objects falling in her room. 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:37,800 But from the first day, Kim saw a male apparition walk down the stairs through the house and into one of the fireplaces. 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,800 They're worried about their daughter. 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,800 They're worried about the daughter. 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Alright. 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Let's set it up ASAP. 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,800 You know, you gotta get out there anytime there's a child involved. 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 And let's just make it happen. 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,800 No problem. 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,800 Let them know we're on our way. 38 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,800 We'll do. 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Thanks, Chris. 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,800 The main goal of TAPS is to help people feel comfortable in their homes. 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Cases that involve small children are not important to TAPS. 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,800 They go to the front of the line because no child should live in fear. 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Alright guys, we're just about there. 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,800 So let's just get there and figure out what's happened. 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Sounds good. 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,800 See you there? 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Here it is. 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,800 Oh, wow. 49 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,800 Wow. 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,800 Wow. 51 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,800 Wow. 52 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,800 Hi, we're TAPS. 53 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,800 We're here to help. 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Hey, welcome to the Adam House. 55 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Nice to meet you. 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,800 Nice to meet you. 57 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,800 I'm Jason. 58 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Jason, nice to meet you. 59 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,800 Kimberly. 60 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,840 I had TAPS come out here because my daughter in the past six months started becoming 61 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,800 afraid to go into different rooms and I think they'll find out what's going on. 62 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Well, welcome. 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,240 This is our main room. 64 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,840 This house was built in 1695. 65 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,600 There's 18 rooms to the house. 66 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,280 There's an apartment attached next door. 67 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 This house was pretty much everything in the community. 68 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,440 It operated as a courthouse, the church, the brothel. 69 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,440 It was a tavern for over 100 years during the Revolutionary War. 70 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,440 And you lived here for how long? 71 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,440 For eight and a half years. 72 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,400 And there's been activity since the very day I moved in? 73 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Interesting. 74 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,840 Has anything happened in this area that we're in right now? 75 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:16,440 In this area, there was a time where I was folding clothes in front of the couch and 76 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:24,040 I had a drum bag down here and a white mist just flew from the bag and I did a duck. 77 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,800 Did it have a shape? 78 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,040 Could you see through it? 79 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,960 It looked like smoke. 80 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,960 Like it was smoky. 81 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,360 Is that the only time that that's ever happened to you or anybody else? 82 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,120 That's the only time that's ever happened, ever, in the house. 83 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Anything else in this area? 84 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,600 The day that I moved into the house. 85 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:47,480 The house was empty and I came over to the stairs to go up and there was a full figure 86 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:54,240 of a man in colonial war attire that came down the stairs and moved through there. 87 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Did you step out of his way? 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,240 I went out of the house. 89 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,240 You stepped way out of his way? 90 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Yeah, way out of his way. 91 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Interesting. 92 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Alright. 93 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Alright, so we're two and out. 94 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,360 I'll take you to the basement. 95 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,800 There's been a few things that have happened down here. 96 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,120 I had a tenant next door and she was over having a cookout one day and I asked her to 97 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,040 come downstairs to get something from the freezer. 98 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,320 So as I was reaching into the freezer to get everything out, it was this eerie chill and 99 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,240 I turned around and out of the corner of my eye I saw two men standing there. 100 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,600 I could tell they were men because they were bigger, their shoulders were squared and they 101 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,440 were just standing there and I grabbed the chicken fingers but I dropped everything else 102 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,280 and up the stairs I ran and Kim was funny. 103 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,400 She's like, are you okay? 104 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,400 I said no. 105 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,400 I'm not going back down there. 106 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Uh-uh. 107 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,200 And this is the master bedroom. 108 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,720 No, this is where you sleep? 109 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,720 This is where we sleep. 110 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,720 Okay. 111 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,280 My wife and I had just gone to bed one night. 112 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:54,080 It was about 10.30 and just as we were falling asleep, we both heard the sound of small footsteps 113 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,760 approaching our bedroom and a young girl's boy is calling out, mommy. 114 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,320 And both my wife and I got out of bed at the same time half asleep expecting it to be 115 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,120 my daughter who wanted to get in bed with us. 116 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,800 So I got up, walked into the hallway and there was no one there. 117 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,080 I walked down the hallway to my daughter's room and she was fast asleep in bed and had 118 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,480 obviously been there for quite a while. 119 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,480 Okay. 120 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,920 So where to now? 121 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,920 To the attic. 122 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,920 After you. 123 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Servants quarters. 124 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Oh wow, look at this. 125 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,520 So what goes on up here? 126 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:36,080 My tenants had like a child's bed and they had stored it up in the attic and they kept 127 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 hearing it move across the floor. 128 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,440 And so they decided to mark it and when they came back up after one of the nights they 129 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,880 heard it move across, it had actually moved three planks over. 130 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,240 Yeah, this is just an area that I never come in. 131 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,160 I will not come up here and I will not come up here alone ever. 132 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Thanks for coming up tonight. 133 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,560 I appreciate it. 134 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,760 I have somebody here. 135 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,760 So. 136 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,760 All right, so what we're going to do from here is go talk to the rest of the crew, start 137 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,240 setting up equipment throughout the entire location and see what we can catch. 138 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Great, thanks a lot. 139 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Thank you. 140 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Hope you catch it. 141 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,240 All right. 142 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,480 There's pretty much activity throughout the entire house from the basement all the way 143 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,680 up to the attic. 144 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,240 So we've got our work cut out for us. 145 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,960 What I'm hoping is that we're able to get some answers for Kim and the rest of the family. 146 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,440 All right, so we're all set? 147 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Yeah guys. 148 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,440 We've got everything set up. 149 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,480 If you want to take a look at the angles, we can lock them down if you like them. 150 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Camera one is in the basement and we got both of the rooms there where she said they have 151 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,520 most of the activity. 152 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,960 Camera two is the master bedroom and we were able to get the floor space. 153 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,400 Camera three is the staircase leading from the second floor to the first floor. 154 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Remember she said that she saw somebody dressed in a soldier's uniform coming down the stairs. 155 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,800 And camera four is the hallway leading from the bedroom past the master bedroom all the 156 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,800 way to the computer. 157 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,320 They heard the kids footsteps, right? 158 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Exactly, kids footsteps. 159 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,200 They claim to see some shadows in that hallway as well. 160 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,240 Camera five is the living area just to the left of that staircase. 161 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Where she got that white cloud of smoke. 162 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Exactly, the white cloud of mist that came at her. 163 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,400 All right. 164 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,400 That's it. 165 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,880 We've got mini-DV in the attic and wireless audio in the attic as well. 166 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Great. 167 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Let's get digital recorders to the cameras to go lights out. 168 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Cool. 169 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,840 All right. 170 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,840 All right, let's go. 171 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:33,840 J and G, hand them house. 172 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,120 You're now in the master bedroom. 173 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Jay and I headed into the house. 174 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Just started doing our sweeps. 175 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,040 See we could pick up on the thermal. 176 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,240 We could pick up with the K2. 177 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Supposedly, figures walking around here. 178 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Good steps up and down the hallway. 179 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,720 I was really looking for some high magnetic fields that would make people feel uneasy 180 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,720 there. 181 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 They would make Kim feel like there are people walking around in her room. 182 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,440 What do you get? 183 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,960 I EMS off the clock? 184 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Yeah, which is interesting because she expressed that it was coming, you know, felt like it 185 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,160 was walking around the bed. 186 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Yeah, but how far are they radiating out? 187 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 It doesn't radiate out. 188 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,400 Radiate out that far at all. 189 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,320 I mean, you're looking probably a foot if you're lucky. 190 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,120 I did find pretty high EMF field, but it wasn't in a position that could really affect her 191 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,120 in the room. 192 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,920 So I have no idea why she's feeling that way unless, of course, there's something paranormal 193 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,920 there. 194 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:40,320 Who is Jay? 195 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,400 My name is Grant. 196 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,400 This is Jason. 197 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaking to whomever may be in this home. 198 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Don't be alarmed by our presence. 199 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Listen. 200 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Is that floor creaking you? 201 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Coming from right here in the hallway. 202 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,400 There's nothing there. 203 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Grant, I headed into the house and started off in the master bedroom. 204 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Is that floor creaking you? 205 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,400 It's coming from right here in the hallway. 206 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,400 There's nothing there. 207 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,400 We did start hearing what sounded like footsteps right outside the master bedroom. 208 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 That's where the husband heard the footsteps? 209 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Yeah. 210 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:42,400 We walked out there, looked around, there was nothing there. 211 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,400 I'm really at loss to what could be creating that right now. 212 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,400 What the hell is this? 213 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,400 There's all this stuff down right here. 214 00:09:49,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Holy cow, where's she sleeping? 215 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Please feel free to approach that green light. 216 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,400 There's a little girl that lives in this room named Emma. 217 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,400 And she doesn't feel comfortable in this house because of things that you've done. 218 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:17,400 I sat down and started trying to let the entities know that if they're there, that your attempts 219 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,400 to communicate are affecting a six-year-old girl. 220 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,400 And that's just not acceptable. 221 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:29,400 If you come in here close to this green light, 222 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,400 that'll let us know you're here. 223 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Jay, seriously, we're getting K2 heads in here. 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,400 You know what I'm saying? 225 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,400 It's going crazy. 226 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,400 The K2 meter picks up magnetic fields and frequencies. 227 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,400 And one of the theories out there is that the spirits are giving off this magnetic frequency, 228 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,400 lighting up the lights in the device, allowing us a way to communicate back and forth. 229 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Can you please back away from the lights? 230 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,400 You hear that again? 231 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Oh, yeah, I'm hearing it. 232 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Boom. 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,400 This is it. 234 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,400 Are you in the room with us? 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Here we go. 236 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Here we go. 237 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Do you live in this home? 238 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,400 So footsteps? 239 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,400 Yeah. 240 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,400 Nobody's in here. 241 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,400 The bed is shaky. 242 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,400 Is that you? 243 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 No, my hand's up here. 244 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,400 I'll shake that. 245 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Yeah, it's different. 246 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,400 It was vibrating. 247 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,400 The part you were sitting on was vibrating? 248 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Yeah, this is going... 249 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Nope, here we go. 250 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,400 Is that you shaking the bed? 251 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,400 It is vibrating a little, huh? 252 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,400 Can you feel it? 253 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 It's going awfully crazy. 254 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,400 While we were in there, again, we started getting some K2 hits. 255 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,400 There was some thumping that was going on in the room. 256 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,400 It was hard to really isolate it. 257 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,400 And the bed started vibrating at one point while Grant was sitting on it. 258 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400 The bed's vibrating slightly now. 259 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Yeah, I can feel it. 260 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 It's not coming from the furnace. 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 I can actually hear the bed vibrating on the floor. 262 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,400 You can hear that the furnace was on in the home. 263 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,400 But then, all of a sudden, you just hear the bed start vibrating by itself. 264 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,400 It's like this. 265 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,400 So it's not the furnace that's making the bed do that. 266 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,400 So I'm really at loss to what could be creating that right now. 267 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,400 Definitely chillier up here. 268 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,400 This is where they're seeing the shadows and stuff. 269 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Is that the door? 270 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Yeah, it is. 271 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Where's it going? 272 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,400 I don't know. 273 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,400 Ready? 274 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,400 What is it? 275 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Oh, it's the whole other part of the attic. 276 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,400 No way. 277 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Chris and I were investigating the attic here. 278 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,400 And we discovered a weird door in one of the rooms that we hadn't noticed before. 279 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,400 So we crawled back there and it was like an extra storage space. 280 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Do you want to try to do some EDP work? 281 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,400 Yeah, I'm going to grab the recorder now. 282 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,400 It was a very small, dark space. 283 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,400 I had a different feeling from the rest of this floor. 284 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,400 We were in there for a while doing EDP work. 285 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,400 If there's anybody up here, my name's Chris and this is my friend Amy. 286 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,400 We're not here to hurt you in any way. 287 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,400 We're just here to talk. 288 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,400 EDP stands for electronic voice phenomenons. 289 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,400 When you catch a voice on tape that you didn't hear at the time it was recording. 290 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,400 Can you start by telling us your name? 291 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Do you stay up here in the servants' quarters? 292 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 You dare you to scare us? 293 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,400 That's provoking. 294 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,400 No, they're scaring other people. 295 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,400 Due to us, we're due to the family. 296 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Was that you? 297 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,400 That was me. 298 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,400 What the hell was that? 299 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,400 If there's anybody up here, my name's Chris and this is my friend Amy. 300 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,400 You dare you to scare us? 301 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Amy and I were investigating the attic. 302 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,400 We were in there for a while doing EDP work. 303 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Due to us, we're due to the family. 304 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Was that you? 305 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,400 That was me. 306 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,400 We asked for it to scare us and immediately we heard a couple of thumps. 307 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,400 What the hell was that? 308 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,400 That was really loud. 309 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,400 I don't know. 310 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,400 But it was behind you. 311 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,400 Behind me? 312 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Yeah. 313 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,400 I thought it was that way. 314 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Hello? 315 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Somebody out there? 316 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:55,400 I'm feeling things in my hair and I think it's just because I'm just paranoid that there's spiders crawling on. 317 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:02,400 But then right around the same time, I had a strange experience where it felt like cobwebs were being dragged through my hair. 318 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Is there something, like, I feel like my hair is moving around? 319 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,400 No. 320 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:12,400 I mean, if it's not you being paranoid, I know the guys have had things like that happen where they feel like spider webs. 321 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,400 That's what it feels like. 322 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,400 And every time I would look, there was nothing there and it kept happening quite a bit. 323 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 I don't really have an explanation for it. 324 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Steve or Tango? 325 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Go for Steve. 326 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Amy and I are just leaving the attic now. 327 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 We're going to break for a little bit and you can have a house yourself. 328 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Tommy, feel free to take a break. 329 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Tango and I are just going to keep going on the first floor. 330 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Let's get out here. 331 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Supposedly, Dave, right here, a mist formed. 332 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Right here? 333 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Yeah, and lunged at her. 334 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,400 And she ducked and ran out of the house. 335 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,400 Thank God. 336 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:02,400 On these stairs, supposedly they've seen that British walk down, come around this way, 337 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,400 and go right through that entrance way. 338 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,400 So we have that endomist. 339 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Let's do some EVP work. 340 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,400 All right. 341 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Mr. Hannam, if you're here with us, can you make a noise for us in this room somewhere? 342 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Are we bothering you? 343 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Anything that you have the power to do? 344 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,400 What was that noise? 345 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,400 I don't know. 346 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,400 I've never heard that before in my entire life. 347 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Hello? 348 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,400 Hello? 349 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,400 If there's somebody in here and you're not Mr. Hannam, can you let us know? 350 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,400 Just make some sort of noise and tell us that you're not Mr. Hannam? 351 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:04,400 We tried to get some sort of sign, anything to interact with us, and unfortunately, we 352 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,400 didn't get anything. 353 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,400 But I think I'm done on this floor. 354 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,400 I mean, we can head somewhere else. 355 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,400 Cool. 356 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,400 Okay. 357 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,400 So really, we're not too sure what's going on here as far as the sounds and voices they're hearing. 358 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,400 Jane Grant heading into the basement. 359 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,400 Grant, I headed down to the basement to investigate where there's been claims of two different male 360 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,400 apparitions being seen and also some of the other people that were seen. 361 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,400 I'm going to investigate where there's been claims of two different male apparitions being 362 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,400 seen and also some shadows that show up in another room. 363 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,400 All right, so, it caused shadows. 364 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,400 Jane, I just started doing our sweep and at the same time we started hearing knocking. 365 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,400 Look at this. 366 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Oh, I got one of those in my house. 367 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,400 The sound that you're hearing is the forced hot air system kicking on. 368 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,400 Other than that, the basement was a typical basement. 369 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,400 Nothing out of the ordinary. 370 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,400 I don't know. 371 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,400 Besides what we were getting upstairs, we're just having gotten anything else. 372 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,400 Yeah, it seems like the second floor was a hot spot, especially a room. 373 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,400 Steve Tango, Chris Amy. 374 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,400 We're going to wrap. 375 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,400 All right, so let's get the lights on. 376 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,400 The Hanum House has been an interesting case. 377 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,400 Right now, my focus is trying to figure out what I can say to Kim and her family to make them feel less afraid. 378 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,400 But the thing that I've really learned here tonight is that if there's any activity, 379 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,400 it centers around her daughter's room, at least for us. 380 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,400 So hopefully, we'll get some answers to our evidence review to help us in that process. 381 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,400 Tango and I are getting ready to review the evidence for the Hanum House. 382 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,400 So we have a lot of stuff to go over. 383 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,400 We ran all of our equipment. 384 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,400 And hopefully, we'll have something that we could bring to Jason and Grant, 385 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,400 and they could bring to the client. 386 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,400 Let's get into the evidence and see what maybe the evidence brings us. 387 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,400 Yeah. 388 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,400 Hey, Steve. 389 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,400 Yes, Dave? 390 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,400 I'm listening to a recorder in the attic. 391 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,400 It's Chris Williams and Amy Rooney. 392 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,400 And they're talking, and then you just hear this. 393 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,400 It's definitely a separate voice. 394 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Kind of give me the creeps when I take a listen to it. 395 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,400 All right, yeah. 396 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,400 Let's see what we got here. 397 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,400 We can't think. 398 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,400 The head grams are so scary. 399 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,400 Wow. 400 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,400 It does sound strange. 401 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,400 Yeah. 402 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,400 What's weird about it is it sounds exactly like the other voices in the room. 403 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,400 Almost like there's another person there just talking with them. 404 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,400 It's creepy. 405 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,400 It's interesting. 406 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,400 It is creepy. 407 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,400 It's a creepy voice. 408 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Yeah. 409 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,400 Doesn't seem to make sense. 410 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,400 No. 411 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,400 Thanks, Dave. 412 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,400 No problem, Steve. 413 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,400 Once again, your ears are... 414 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,400 That room's a... 415 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,400 Hey, Dave. 416 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,400 What you listening to this? 417 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,400 It's Amy and Chris up in the attic again. 418 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,400 You want to check it out? 419 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Okay. 420 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,400 Because it kind of sounds out of place. 421 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,400 Let's see. 422 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,400 What do you say we try the second floor? 423 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,400 All right. 424 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Sounds good to me. 425 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,400 Wow. 426 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,400 We got something paranormal here. 427 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Hey, how are you been? 428 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,400 Good. How are you? 429 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,400 Doing all right. 430 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,400 Good to see you, man. 431 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,400 We come out to try to accomplish two things. 432 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,400 We want to, number one, catch any evidence 433 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,400 so that we can back up your experiences. 434 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,400 And we also want to try to find explanations for them 435 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,400 so that we can sort through fact and fiction, you know, 436 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,400 and really zone in on what needs to be addressed here. 437 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,400 And we had quite a few personal experiences. 438 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,400 At one point, we went in your room. 439 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,400 While we were in there, 440 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,400 we did hear what sounded like footsteps 441 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,400 and there was nobody else in the home. 442 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,400 We hung out for a little while, 443 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,400 but the sounds stopped. 444 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,400 From there, we headed down to your daughter's room. 445 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,400 And while we were in there, 446 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,400 there was a few strange things that started happening. 447 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,400 The K2 meter, which picks up magnetic fields, 448 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,400 did start going off. 449 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,400 At one point, Grant was sitting on her bed 450 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,400 trying to make contact. 451 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,400 The bed started to slightly vibrate back and forth. 452 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,400 It was like a swaying motion. 453 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,400 It was like this. 454 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,400 Just not a lot. 455 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,400 It was probably maybe an inch one way and the other. 456 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,400 So from there, I did crawl down on the floor. 457 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,400 I tried, you know, just to hear if it could be anything, 458 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,400 the furnace or anything that was running through the room. 459 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,400 It was like a thing that was running the vibration and up. 460 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,400 It really didn't appear to be the furnace. 461 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,400 During the night, we did have multiple investigators 462 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,400 coming to the home and they checked out many different areas. 463 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,400 We had Chris and Amy, our investigators, up in the attic. 464 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400 And they did get a sensation that a lot of investigators 465 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,400 get on cases of coming across a spider web, 466 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,400 feeling like you just walked through a spider web 467 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,400 when there's nothing there, no evidence of one. 468 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,400 So that's just a personal experience. 469 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,400 We don't really have any evidence of that, 470 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,400 but it's something that is a trend we tend to find on cases. 471 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,400 Okay. 472 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,400 While they were up there, we were able to catch two EVPs. 473 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,400 We're going to play those for you right now. 474 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,400 The first one, we want to see if maybe you've heard this before. 475 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Okay. 476 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,400 Okay. 477 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,400 Okay, you'll hear our investigators talking, 478 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,400 but listen near the end for another voice 479 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,400 that kind of comes over then. 480 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,400 Ready? 481 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,400 You say we try the second floor. 482 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,400 All right, that's good to me. 483 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,400 Can you hear it come in? 484 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,400 I've heard, I think I've heard that woman's voice in the attic before. 485 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,400 A couple different times, actually. 486 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,400 So that sounds familiar to you? 487 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,400 That voice sounds familiar. 488 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,400 Okay. 489 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,400 The only word that Grant myself could make out 490 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,400 was something at the end that sounded like a thousand. 491 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,400 Four. 492 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,400 All right, that's good to me. 493 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,400 I could have four. 494 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400 All right, that's good to me. 495 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,400 So, it sounds like a very comforting female voice 496 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,400 is not threatening. 497 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,400 We've had one more, which is really clear. 498 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,400 It was caught also in the attic while Chris and Amy 499 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,400 were up there investigating. 500 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,400 Okay, you ready? 501 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,400 Just a weekend thing. 502 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,400 I'd give them the service. 503 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,400 Can you hear it grumbling in there in the middle? 504 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,400 Yeah, I can hear words are clearly being spoken. 505 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,400 But now listen, we'll loop it. 506 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,400 I'd give them the service. 507 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,400 I'd give them the service. 508 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,400 I'd give them the service. 509 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,400 You make out what it's saying? 510 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,400 I'd give them the service. 511 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,400 All right, it sounds like it's saying you'll find it in this wall. 512 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,400 Okay. 513 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,400 So let's play that again. 514 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Listen. 515 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,400 I'd give them the service. 516 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,400 I'd give them the service. 517 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,400 I'd give them the service. 518 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,400 I'd give them the service. 519 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,400 I'd give them the service. 520 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,400 There have been a lot of things found in the walls 521 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,400 and in throughout the house, 522 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,400 and they're at the Historical Society. 523 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,400 And we actually have a collection of various objects 524 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,400 that have been found. 525 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,400 So, God only knows how much more history is here 526 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,400 in between the walls. 527 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,400 So, what we have is the summation of what we've gotten here. 528 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,400 We weren't really able to debunk some of the most amazing things 529 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,400 you saw, the smoke, the figure. 530 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,400 But what we do know is this place was the center of attention 531 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,400 for hundreds of years. 532 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,400 And none of us feel that there's any threat. 533 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,400 Remember, these are just people. 534 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Just people without a body. 535 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,400 Okay. 536 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,400 And as for trying to take the fear factor away from your daughter. 537 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,400 Yeah. 538 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,400 Comfort her. 539 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,400 If you're not afraid, 540 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,400 she most likely won't be afraid. 541 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,400 And also, if she comes across something, 542 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,400 she'll know about it 543 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,400 because any knowledge is just going to wipe fear out. 544 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,400 Okay, great. 545 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,400 Thanks. 546 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,400 Do you think there's a lot of entities here? 547 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,400 It definitely appeared that there's a male and a female from there. 548 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,400 It's possible that there's... 549 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,400 There's a lot of people. 550 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Yeah, multiple things. 551 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,400 There's a lot of people here. 552 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,400 Okay. 553 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Thanks a lot. 554 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,400 I appreciate it. 555 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,400 We want to say thank you very much for having us out. 556 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Oh, thanks a lot for coming. 557 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,400 You need to follow us, okay? 558 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,400 Yeah, we'll give you a team out here when you need it. 559 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,400 Thanks a lot. 560 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,400 Come on, let's get out of here. 561 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,400 I think it's a relief knowing that there's nothing harmful here 562 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,400 or anything that is going to harm my daughter. 563 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,400 And I think educating her is really going to help. 564 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400 And I think Taps helped take care of that. 565 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,400 So she seemed to take that pretty well. 566 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,400 Yeah, I think she took it well. 567 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,400 I think she understood where we were coming from. 568 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,400 But mothers, when they face with a paranormal, 569 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,400 and it's affecting their children, 570 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,400 they have this huge cloud of possibility. 571 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,400 It can be everything they've ever read in a book or seen on a TV screen. 572 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,400 You have to boil that down to what they're actually facing, 573 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,400 and then they feel more confident in their empowerment. 574 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,400 Hey, great. 575 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Well, you know what, bro? 576 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,400 Another great case? 577 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,400 Yeah. 578 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,400 On to the next. 579 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,400 On to the next. 580 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,400 So, man, what a piece of history. 581 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,400 Betsy Ross House? 582 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,400 I know. 583 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,400 I mean, she's the wonderful woman that sewed together the original flag there. 584 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,400 The American flag. 585 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,400 That's what's so cool about coming to Philadelphia. 586 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,400 I mean, so much of our country started here and found here and solidified here. 587 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,400 And you know that whatever place you're going to investigate is steep in our nation's past. 588 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,400 You know, this should be cool. 589 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,400 So, Chris, what kind of activity do they report here? 590 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,400 Mostly activity seems to be people hearing voices. 591 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,400 A few people have felt like they were touched, like a hand on their shoulder. 592 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,400 Several people have experienced it from people working there to people visiting. 593 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,400 So there are two separate buildings. 594 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,400 One is the Ross House itself, 595 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,400 and the other has been converted to a gift shop and a visitor's center. 596 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,400 What a piece of history. 597 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,400 Come on, Betsy Ross House. 598 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,400 Tango wants to know who Betsy Ross is. 599 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,400 I never said that. 600 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 601 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,400 I never said that. 602 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,400 You're not going to get a history lesson as soon as we get there. 603 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,400 You're almost there. 604 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,400 Guys, it's right up here. 605 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,400 Hi, Lisa. 606 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,400 Hi. 607 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,400 I'm Jason. 608 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,400 Nice to meet you. 609 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,400 Hey, Grant, how are you? 610 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,400 Hi. 611 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,400 Hi, Steve. 612 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,400 Hi, welcome to the Betsy Ross House. 613 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,400 I've worked for the Betsy Ross House for eight years, 614 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,400 and I've heard lots of stories, particularly from other directors. 615 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,400 I just like to validate their stories. 616 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,400 What's some of the history here? 617 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,400 Is this the original house? 618 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,400 This is the original house. 619 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400 We believe Betsy lived here between 1773 and 1785. 620 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,400 It's at that time that she made the first American flag. 621 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400 That big, huge flag was made in that little house. 622 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,400 It was. 623 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,400 And you can see her remains right here, too, 624 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,400 along with those of her third husband. 625 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,400 You want to take us in to show us the house? 626 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,400 Sure, that's you. 627 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,400 FDF. 628 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,400 So what goes on in here? 629 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,400 Well, this is our gift shop building. 630 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,400 Back in 1980, in the basement below us, 631 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,400 there was a scuffle between a couple of security guards, 632 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400 and one of the security guards shot the other one three times. 633 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400 And he left him overnight to die. 634 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,400 That's more than a scuffle. 635 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,400 Wow, holy cow. 636 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,400 Any reports of paranormal activity because of that? 637 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,400 Some voices have been heard in the basement. 638 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,400 Is there anything else? 639 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,400 Well, right above our cash registers here is our loft space, 640 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,400 which is where we keep the gift shop back stock. 641 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,400 So it's loaded with boxes. 642 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,400 A couple of weeks ago, a few of our staff members heard boxes 643 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,400 being moved around up there when there was nobody up there. 644 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,400 OK, so where to now? 645 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,400 We're going to take a look inside the house. 646 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,400 So what goes on in here? 647 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,400 This is one of the most important rooms in the historic tour of the house 648 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,400 because this is where, as we believe, Betsy Ross met with the flag committee. 649 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,400 I was sitting in the parlor, and two dark shadows came by me. 650 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,400 I felt like a presence. 651 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,400 It just frightened me, and it just kind of went by. 652 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,400 All right, so where to now? 653 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,400 We're going to head down to our basement. 654 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,400 All right, after you. 655 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,400 This is the basement of the Betsy Ross house. 656 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,400 A few years ago, admissions staff member was sitting in a box down here all by herself. 657 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,400 There were no visitors on site. 658 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,400 She heard some wrestling coming from this room, as well as a couple of voices. 659 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,400 Really? 660 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,400 That's it for this room. 661 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,400 OK, so where to now? 662 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,400 My office. 663 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,400 You look extremely proud of that. 664 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,400 It's probably the spookiest place here. 665 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400 OK, check it out. 666 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,400 OK. 667 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,400 After you. 668 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,400 All right, so this is your office. 669 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,400 This is my office. 670 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400 This is the attic of the Betsy Ross house. 671 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,400 In 1898, our museum's founder, Charles Weissgerber, moved his family into this house, 672 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,400 and he lived here until he died at the age of 76, and he actually died in this room. 673 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,400 He had a stroke. 674 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Some former directors have experienced some things in this room. 675 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400 For instance, my predecessor was working late one night. 676 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,400 She was the only one on site, and she was sitting here at the computer 677 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,400 and felt a hand grasped her shoulder. 678 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,400 The director before her actually was so freaked out by something 679 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,400 that she climbed out the window and onto the flagpole. 680 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Anyone have any idea what she was freaked out by? 681 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400 I don't know. 682 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Wow. 683 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,400 What kind of experiences have you had? 684 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400 I haven't had any experiences in here. 685 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,400 It's just your fear is based on the past stories. 686 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Exactly. 687 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,400 All right. 688 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400 That's pretty much all the location. 689 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,400 That's about it. 690 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400 All right, so what we're going to do from here is we're going to go out, 691 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,400 talk to the rest of the team, and just start setting up equipment. 692 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,400 OK. 693 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,400 Thank you very much. 694 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,400 You're the best, OK? 695 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,400 Good luck. 696 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,400 Thanks. 697 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Come on after you. 698 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,400 We'll get out of here. 699 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Thank you. 700 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Basically, we have two buildings to cover, so we're going to limit ourselves 701 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400 and put one team in each building. 702 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,400 Honestly, it should go well. 703 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,400 We're all eager to be here and eager to help these people out. 704 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400 All right, so we're all set. 705 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,400 Yeah, guys, if you want to take a quick look at the angles here, 706 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,400 camera one is the loft above the gift shop. 707 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,400 They heard supposedly some boxes went around up there. 708 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,400 Right. 709 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400 So get a camera up there in case we can see some of that stuff move. 710 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Angle two is down in the basement. 711 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,400 Supposedly they see some things moving and hear some voices. 712 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Camera three, this is where they claim that they had the first meeting. 713 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,400 Yeah. 714 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400 They had the meeting and they do claim they hear some things, see some shadows. 715 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,400 And the last here is her loft, which is her office. 716 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Someone just saw something so frightening they had to get out of there, you know. 717 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Get out in the flagpole. 718 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,400 Right, get out in the flagpole. 719 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,400 So we're just hoping to cover that whole area where she may have been looking. 720 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,400 Okay, Grant and I are going to take the first shift in the Betsy Ross house on our own. 721 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,400 All right. 722 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,400 And let's get lights out. 723 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Thanks, guys. 724 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,400 All right, this is the room where they hear people moving and talking in here. 725 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,400 We've got a full chimney there. 726 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,400 A bird or squirrel could come down there easy. 727 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Something just clicked right above my head. 728 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,400 What was that? 729 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400 Hey, listen. 730 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400 There's somebody walking upstairs, somebody on the floor above us. 731 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,400 Grant and I are downstairs in the basement area. 732 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,400 Something just clicked right above my head. 733 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400 What was that? 734 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Hey, listen. 735 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,400 There's somebody walking upstairs, somebody on the floor above us. 736 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Yeah? 737 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Yes, we can. 738 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400 Somebody in here. 739 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400 I'm a walker, I bet. 740 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400 There's nobody out there? 741 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400 Yeah, there's no one there. 742 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,400 You've heard the footsteps. 743 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,400 Oh, yeah. 744 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,400 Yeah, of course. 745 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,400 The floor was creaking. 746 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,400 Want me to walk so you can hear what that sounded like? 747 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,400 Yeah, do it up. 748 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Yeah, Grant, the same sounds. 749 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,400 It sounded exactly like what we had heard downstairs. 750 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Yeah, that's it. 751 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,400 I can't imagine anyone being able to escape that quickly 752 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,400 without us hearing footsteps. 753 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,400 Amy and I were investigating the basement. 754 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,400 The reports there were somebody had actually heard a man's voice. 755 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400 If there's anybody down here, my name's Chris and this is my friend Amy. 756 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,400 We heard about an accident that took place down here. 757 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400 We just loved to hear more about it. 758 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400 We'd like to hear what happened. 759 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400 We just have a few questions for you. 760 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,400 People say they hear things moving around up in the loft area. 761 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,400 Do you sometimes visit that part of the building too? 762 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,400 How long have you worked here? 763 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Do you think the people that work here now do a good job? 764 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,400 We did some EVP work. 765 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400 It was very quiet, but we did have our audio going. 766 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,400 We did have our cameras going. 767 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400 So who's to say we might not find something in the evidence? 768 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,400 I want to find out why she feels so creeped out in her office. 769 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,400 Where the director got so scared, 770 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,400 I guess she climbed out the window and onto the flagpole. 771 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Let's do some EVP work. 772 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,400 We'd really like to talk with you, make contact with you. 773 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400 You live in this house? 774 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,400 Can you tell us what year it is? 775 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400 Just one simple answer. 776 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,400 As loudly and as clearly as you can. 777 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 What year is it? 778 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,400 Yeah. 779 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Who's that? 780 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Is that a voice? 781 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400 Sounds like it. Hold on. 782 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,400 It's not coming from the van. 783 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,400 Where's it coming from? 784 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,400 I don't know. It's not coming from over here. 785 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,400 Maybe it's on the hall. 786 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,400 You can hear it? 787 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,400 I tried to get to the attic room that's directly behind the office. 788 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,400 I don't hear it anymore. 789 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,400 That was odd. 790 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,400 It sounded like a distant male conversation. 791 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,400 We were able to hear it, so I'm sure we got him in the digital recorder. 792 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,400 I'm looking forward to analyzing that and just seeing if anything turns up. 793 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400 We're going to Dave, Betsy Ross House. 794 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,400 I hear Dave is where Betsy Ross supposedly had the meeting saying, 795 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,400 you know, we would like you to sew our nation's flag. 796 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,400 Why hurt? Like why they choose her? 797 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,400 Well supposedly her husband's uncle was friends with George Washington. 798 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,400 They're also the same church. 799 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400 Needed somebody to sew the flag. 800 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,400 Hey, do you know anybody? 801 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,400 Yeah, we know this awesome upholsterer. 802 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,400 Let's talk to her. 803 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Well, I'm going there for just for a minute. 804 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Tell you what, maybe if you try moving stuff around a little bit in there, 805 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,400 maybe the lage-itator or something, you know, get her to interact. 806 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,400 Yeah. 807 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,400 Maybe take this chair. 808 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,400 Now that, I mean, that would make me mad in my own house. 809 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,400 You know what I mean? 810 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Yeah. 811 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Betsy, we've moved your furniture around a little bit. 812 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,400 If that makes you upset, all you have to do is let us know. 813 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,400 We'll put it right back where it belongs. 814 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,400 Are you upset that we did this? 815 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,400 Make a noise, show yourself, do something, and we'll put it back. 816 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,400 Hmm. 817 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,400 Well, she had her chance. 818 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,400 You know, unfortunately, we didn't find anything paranormal, 819 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,400 so our hopes lie in the evidence. 820 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400 All right, Jane Grant, Betsy Ross House Gift Shop. 821 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400 I want to check out the basement where people have reported hearing voices. 822 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,400 Where would two security guards really hang out here? 823 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,400 I can't believe just blowing some guy away down here. 824 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400 You got a K2 on you, Grant? 825 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,400 I got a K2. 826 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,400 Look at that. 827 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,400 That white cable? I mean, that one? 828 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,400 That runs the whole length of this place. 829 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,400 We found a Romax cable up near the ceiling in the basement 830 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,400 that was emitting a huge EMF field. 831 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400 It's a serious fear cage down here. 832 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,400 A fear cage is a confined area in a location 833 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400 that's filled with high electromagnetic fields. 834 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,400 The reason it's a fear cage is because if somebody's subjected 835 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400 to high electromagnetic fields for a long period of time, 836 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,400 it can cause everything from skin irritation, nausea, fatigue, 837 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,400 and hallucinations. 838 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400 EMF, look at this, man. This place is ridiculous. 839 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,400 Look, everything is giving off high magnetic fields. 840 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,400 Look at that. 841 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,400 What's this? 842 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,400 Look at this, yeah. 843 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,400 Whatever's above this is going to really blow people's minds. 844 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,400 Did you hear that? 845 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,400 I want to go downstairs to do a quick sweep. 846 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,400 Jane, I headed into the gift shop to see if we could figure out 847 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,400 what would make the sound of a man's voice arguing downstairs. 848 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,400 This place is ridiculous. 849 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,400 Look, everything is giving off high magnetic fields. 850 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,400 Look at that. 851 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,400 What's this? 852 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,400 Look at this, yeah. 853 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,400 Whatever's above this is going to really blow people's minds. 854 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,400 Did you hear that? 855 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400 There wasn't any here. That was above us. 856 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400 We heard a really loud moan, 857 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,400 and it sounded like it was coming from upstairs. 858 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,400 So naturally, we headed upstairs to see if we could figure out what it was. 859 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,400 I'm just wondering what that moan was. 860 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,400 Hello? 861 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,400 There was no one up there. We couldn't find any explanation for it. 862 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400 So what do you think, man? It's late. 863 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,400 We've covered this place pretty much from top to bottom. 864 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400 So why don't you let the team know and meet us at the van? 865 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,400 Hey, Steve and Chris, I think we're ready to wrap. 866 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,400 So why don't you guys meet us at the van? 867 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400 Well, it was a long night, 868 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,400 and now that they have all their evidence gathered, 869 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,400 they're going to go back and take a look at it, 870 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,400 and I hope they find something interesting. 871 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,400 Can't wait to see what they've come up with. 872 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,400 Hey, Dave, Betsy Ross House. 873 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,400 I say we jump right into it, because we've got a lot of stuff to go over. 874 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,400 Dave, if you want to take a wireless there, 875 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,400 with some mini-DVs, thermal tapes, 876 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,400 and I'll take a digital, how's that? 877 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,400 Hey, Dave. 878 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400 What's up? 879 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,400 Take a listen to this. This is in the gift shop. 880 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Okay. 881 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400 It's just a voice. 882 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,400 Okay. 883 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,400 So I'd like to have your ears help me a little bit. 884 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,400 You got it. 885 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,400 It sounds like voices. 886 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,400 I think we should bring to them. 887 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400 Definitely. 888 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,400 And just get their impression on it. 889 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,400 Okay. 890 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,400 Hey, Dave. 891 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,400 Would you mind taking a listen to this for me? 892 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400 This is Jason and Grant. 893 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,400 I'm investigating down in the basement. 894 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,400 Okay. 895 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,400 I can hear something. 896 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,400 I don't know what to make of it. 897 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,400 Whatever's above this is going to really put people's minds. 898 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,400 I'm going to go ahead and take a listen. 899 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400 Okay. 900 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,400 I'm going to go ahead and take a listen. 901 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,400 Okay. 902 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400 I'm going to go ahead and take a listen. 903 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,400 Okay. 904 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,400 This is going to really put people's minds. 905 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400 Would you hear that? 906 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400 It's like... 907 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,400 Lisa, how are you? 908 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,400 I'm okay. It's good to see you again. 909 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400 You too. 910 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400 I have some interesting things to tell you. 911 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400 One thing we did have happen. 912 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,400 We came in on the bottom floor and we were investigating. 913 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400 Right above us, we kept hearing footsteps. 914 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,400 There was a man walking. 915 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400 Grant went up to look while I stayed there. 916 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,400 There was absolutely nobody up there. 917 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400 There was no explanation. 918 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,400 Now it's near where one of our staff members, Elaine, 919 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,400 heard voices and movement when 920 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,400 she was in the house by herself. 921 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,400 That seems to validate her claim. 922 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,400 While we were up here in your office, 923 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,400 we heard quite a bit of conversation. 924 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,400 A conversation? 925 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,400 We thought this was an air vent at first 926 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,400 and we were catching chatter from the street or whatever. 927 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400 We came to find out it was coming from the attic right behind us. 928 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400 being said, but there was definitely conversations going on there. 929 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,080 During the investigation, we had some digital recorders rolling up in the loft area where 930 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,040 a lot of people have heard things, things moving on their own and stuff of that nature. 931 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,800 We were able to catch some sort of a voice, and we'd like to play that for you and let 932 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,800 you hear it. 933 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,800 Okay. 934 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,800 Yeah, you okay? 935 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,800 I think so. 936 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,800 All right. 937 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800 I heard it. 938 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,800 It sounds like a man's voice. 939 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,800 Yeah. 940 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:29,920 I'm gonna loop it for you. 941 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,920 I can definitely hear it. 942 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,000 I'm just trying to figure out what it could be saying. 943 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Well, you can definitely hear that it does sound like a man's voice. 944 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Absolutely. 945 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,040 And it sounds almost as if he's saying, you know, two syllable word or two words in general. 946 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,040 Yeah. 947 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Yeah, something such as don't go. 948 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040 Yeah, yeah. 949 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,560 But you don't want to put too much into it. 950 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,560 Right. 951 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,040 Now, during the night also, Grant and I were downstairs in the basement of the gift shop. 952 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,160 And while we were down there, we did hear what sounded like a really loud moan come 953 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,680 from the gift shop area. 954 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,120 It was loud enough that it radiated all the way down to the basement. 955 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,120 Okay. 956 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,120 All right. 957 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,120 We were lucky enough to have cameras rolling during that time. 958 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,120 And we did catch it. 959 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,520 So we'd like to play that for you. 960 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,520 Okay. 961 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,520 All right. 962 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,520 This is a video because that's the only thing that caught it. 963 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,520 Okay, here we go. 964 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,520 Okay. 965 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,520 Look at this. 966 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,520 Yeah. 967 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,520 Whatever's above this is gonna really get people's minds. 968 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,520 Did you hear that? 969 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,400 But that wasn't in here. 970 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,400 That was above us. 971 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,880 We'll play that again. 972 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,880 Okay. 973 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,880 What's, look at this. 974 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,880 Yeah. 975 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,640 Whatever's above this is gonna really get people's minds. 976 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,880 Did you hear that? 977 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400 But that wasn't in here. 978 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,840 That was above us. 979 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,600 So I'm not sure if you've ever heard anything like that. 980 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,600 Never. 981 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,600 Well, it was loud. 982 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,600 Yeah. 983 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,600 Yeah, I tell. 984 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,600 You can see it on that. 985 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,600 That's creepy. 986 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,600 I don't think there's anything to fear. 987 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:56,120 I think this place is a great balance of potential activity and people who just love history 988 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,080 in a unique building. 989 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:04,360 I think you guys are very lucky here because you have a wonderful piece of history and the 990 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,880 chance to actually become face to face with history. 991 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,880 Yeah. 992 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,880 And this is intriguing. 993 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,880 I'd love to learn more. 994 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,880 Thank you very much. 995 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,880 Have a sound. 996 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,880 Thank you. 997 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,880 All right. 998 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,880 Thanks. 999 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,880 Thanks, Lisa. 1000 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,880 Let's get out of here. 1001 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,280 I'm surprised because I was sort of skeptical in the beginning of this process. 1002 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:26,040 So to see evidence that something has definitely occurred here really surprises me. 1003 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,040 I think that went great, man. 1004 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,040 I think it went really well. 1005 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,600 Another place left me scratching my head. 1006 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,720 We got some activity, but not enough to really help us get anywhere and solving what's going 1007 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:36,720 on. 1008 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:37,720 But you know what, man? 1009 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:38,720 All great case. 1010 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:39,720 Yeah. 1011 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:40,720 You know, on to the next. 1012 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:41,720 Yeah. 1013 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,880 Thanks. 1014 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,880 Thanks. 1015 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,880 Thanks. 1016 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,880 Thanks. 1017 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,880 Thanks. 1018 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,880 Thanks. 1019 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,880 Thanks. 1020 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,880 Thanks. 1021 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,880 Thanks. 1022 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,880 Thanks. 1023 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,880 Thanks. 1024 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,880 Thanks. 1025 00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,880 Thanks. 1026 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:00,880 Thanks. 1027 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,880 Thanks. 1028 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,880 Thanks. 1029 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,880 Thanks. 1030 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,880 Thanks. 1031 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,880 Thanks. 1032 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,880 Thanks. 1033 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,880 Thanks. 1034 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,880 Thanks. 1035 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,880 Thanks. 1036 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,880 Thanks. 1037 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,880 Thanks. 1038 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,880 Thanks. 1039 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:13,880 Thanks. 1040 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,880 Thanks. 1041 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,880 Thanks.